You’re reading this because you want to get fast. Clearly. Otherwise you wouldn’t be here.
What follows is a comprehensive guide on going from being a complete couch potato to an Olympic-level athlete in six months. How is this possible? After all, normally this would take several years. The secret is focusing on the fundamentals. Consider the following passage, written about Japanese baseball:
"In every confrontation with a real American professional team it seems that what we need to learn from them, besides their technique of course, is how uniformly faithful their players are to the fundamentals. Faithfulness to the fundamentals seems to be a common thread linking professionalism in all areas." –T. Kageyama
The interesting thing is that Kageyama was actually a professional go player, and the quote above comes from a book about go. But as it turns out, what’s good for baseball players and go players is good for rowers as well.
Here are the basic principles behind this guide:
- There are three components to fitness: cardio, strength, and flexibility. If you want to have the fastest 2k, then you need to have the most cardio, the most strength, and the most flexibility.
- Getting fast at rowing is a project, just like writing software or building a house. The best way to improve strength, cardio, and flexibility as fast as possible is to use the same research-based methodology behind all other project management.
- Each of the three components of fitness is broken into various subtasks. Each workout is designed to maximize the measurability of one’s progress in each subtask over time.
- They don’t have you doing the most efficient workout on any given day.
- They fail to generate actionable data.
In contrast, by holding our workouts constant we can easily track our rate of progress and make data-driven decisions quickly. This allows us tweak our workouts to keep our rate of improvement in each exercise linear for as long as possible, rather than having it prematurely reaching the point of diminishing returns. I will follow up with several real world examples of this below, as well as some raw data from my own personal experience.
The ultimate goal is to go from your current level of fitness (or lack thereof) to being able to pull a sub-6:20 2k in six months. In order to break 6:20, here are the benchmarks you need:
Aerobic cardio: sub-1:55 for 2 x 45’ @ 75% of max HR / 19spm
Anaerobic cardio: >2900m avg. for 3 x 10’ @ 24spm (4 min), 26spm (3 min), 28spm (2 min), 30spm (1 min)
Squats: 320-360 lbs max
Pull-ups: 35
If you can achieve each of these goals then you are pretty much guaranteed to have a sub-6:20 2k. Notice how we are breaking the 2k down into its component fitness parts, each of which we can directly measure against the data generated from our daily workouts. This way there is never any guessing. Each day you know exactly how much progress you’ve made toward each goal, and exactly how many days it will take to reach each goal at your current rate of improvement.
So what does this actually look like in practice? It’s extremely simple. Here is the plan for the first three months:
Months 1 - 3
Monday – Saturday: Erg 2 x 45min @ 19spm, 75% max HR
Monday – Saturday: Stretching, core strength
Monday & Thursday: 6 x max pull-ups
Tuesday & Friday: 6 x 10 squats
Wednesday & Saturday: 4 x 10 back extension
Sunday: Rest
Erg
- 2 x 45 min @ 19spm, 75% max HR. For me this is around 155 HR, for you it may be wildly different. To figure out your max HR, you need to actually max out your HR by wearing your HR monitor on the erg. You can do this by doing something like 3 x 2' sprint, with 2 min active recovery in between. Do not use any of the purported formulas (e.g. 220 - age), they are not accurate and will lead to bad results.
- Take a water break every 15 minutes. (This shouldn't take more than 10 - 15 seconds.) The standard half-strength Gatorade advice is good here, i.e. one scoop of Gatorade powder for a 32 ounce Nalgene. Limit the water breaks to fifteen seconds so as not to mess up your numbers; this should be enough time to down at least 8 ounces of fluids.
- Between the two sets eat something like a banana or a power bar. This helps prevent chronic glycogen depletion, the cause of most overtraining syndrome.
- Take 15 or so min in between sets to through a full routine of stretches. After 45 min of erging your muscles will be nicely warmed up, so this is the ideal time to gain flexibility.
- Keep the drag factor around 100 for the 90 minute pieces.
- While spending 20 minutes between sets probably isn’t ideal from a purely cardio point of view, taking the time to properly stretch, eat, and hydrate goes a long way toward preventing repetitive strain injuries. And since pretty much the only thing that will keep you from breaking 6:20 if you follow this plan is injury, this is time well spent in the long run.
- I'd recommend taking one extra day off from the 90 minute erg pieces every other week, and then cross training for one day during the weeks that you're not taking an extra day off. This means that you should be doing your 90 minute erg pieces 22 days out of the 30, with an additional two 90 minute pieces per month of cross training. However, don't erg any less than 22 days per month or else your cardio will take a dramatic hit.
- Never skip a strength workout. Even one missed day will set you back at least a week. In economics terms, the bulk of the improvement comes from the marginal effort you put in near the end. That is, the first 80% of the effort gets you only 20% of the benefits.
- Similarly, never skip a workout for an erg test. I’ve seen way too many rowers try to cheat the system this way, which makes no sense. By training through every piece you ensure that even if you’re a little slower in fall, you’ll be miles ahead in spring. This takes a certain amount of self-confidence and assuredness in your ability to make the boat, but the dividends here are enormous. Go easy the day before your last 2k of the season, but train through everything right up until then.
- 6 sets of as many pull-ups as you can do.
- Record how many you get on each set in your notebook, but in excel record only the number you get on the first set and the total for all six sets.
- Start with the maximum amount of weight you know you can safely do for 6 sets of ten reps. Each time you can successfully completely the 6 x 10 two workouts in a row for a given weight, increase the weight by 10 lbs for the next session. Always use a squat belt.
- If you complete the lift just barely both times then keep with that weight for another session or two, especially as the weight gets heavier. Again, if you follow this workout plan then pretty much the only thing that can stop you from pulling a 6:20 is getting injured, so don’t fucking get injured. If there is ever a question about safety then immediately reduce the weight.
- All squats should be full squats, i.e. the Olympic-style squats described here.
- It generally helps to put a 5 or 10lb plate under each heal. This lets you push with your entire foot while keeping good form.
- Once the squats start getting very heavy it’s good to lie on the ground between sets, and with your legs on elevated (e.g. resting on a chair or on the erg) do crossovers with 5 or 10lb weights. Start with your arms lying on the ground completely extended, as if you were making a snow angel. Then slowly bring each arm across to the other side of your chest with the weight in each hand. The point of this isn’t to get a workout, it’s just to help drain the lactate and other cruft out of your legs. Doing this for a minute or so between sets dramatically improves recovery.
Similarly, the best way to complete these workouts is to do the lifts before the cardio. The thinking is that even if you can’t erg as fast at 75% of your max HR after lifting, you’ll still be getting roughly the same cardio benefit. Whereas if you’re lifting less weight each week because you’re lifting after cardio, then ultimately it’s going to take much longer to gain strength.
Experiment with doing cardio directly after strength training, and doing strength in the morning and cardio in the evenings. I have a suspicion that splitting these sessions up may result in lower average and peak inflammation levels, meaning less stress on the kidneys and possibly slightly faster rates of improvement. But this is fairly speculative, and whatever benefits there may be (if any) could easily be overshadowed be the increased risk of missing a cardio session entirely.
Months 3 – 4.5
Monday – Saturday: Erg 2 x 45min @ 19spm, 77.5% max HR
Monday – Saturday: Stretching, core strength
Monday & Thursday: 6 x max pull-ups
Tuesday & Friday: 6 x 8 squats
Wednesday & Saturday: 4 x 10 back extension
Sunday: Rest
Monday & Thursday: 3 x 10’ @ 22spm (4 min), 24spm (3 min), 26spm (2 min), 28spm
Tuesday & Friday: 2 x 1250m @ 32spm
Tuesday & Friday: Extra 45 min of cross training cardio.
Wednesday & Saturday: Varies
I’d recommend the lifts and 2 x 45 erg in the morning, and then the harder stuff in the afternoons. Do the Thursday and Saturday pieces on the erg. The rest of the hard pieces should be done on the water, unless your goal is purely to get a fast erg time. Do at least 30 min cardio during the warm up with a few power 10s or 20s, and do an active recovery between pieces.
Wednesday and Saturday is your choice of anaerobic cardio. Good options are 2 x 30’, 3 x 20’, 10k, 5k, etc. The point is to do at least one hard piece every day. After all, once you know how to pull hard, being in shape is just icing on the cake.
The cross training should be done on the elliptical, the bike, or running. Do elliptical at the same heart rate you would erg at for the 2 x 45, do the bike at 10bpm lower, and for running do 10bpm higher.
Months 4.5 - 6
Monday – Saturday: Erg 2 x 45min @ 19spm, 77.5% max HR
Monday – Saturday: Stretching, core strength
Monday & Thursday: 6 x max pull-ups
Tuesday & Friday: 6 x 6 squats; superset each with 3 jumpies
Wednesday & Saturday: 4 x 10 back extension
Sunday: Rest
Monday & Thursday: 3 x 10’ @ 24spm (4 min), 26spm (3 min), 28spm (2 min), 30spm
Tuesday & Friday: 2 x 1250m @ 34spm
Tuesday & Friday: Extra 45 min of cross training cardio.
Wednesday & Saturday: Varies
At the end of the six months you should be easily hitting the goals outlined at the beginning. If so, then you either should be able to break 6:20 on pure cardio, or else be very close. If you’re hitting the goals but you’re not quite there yet, then here is what to do:
Months 6 – 7.5
Monday – Saturday: Erg 2 x 45min @ 19spm, 77.5% max HR (around 160)
Monday – Saturday: Stretching, core strength
Monday & Thursday: 6 x max pull-ups
Tuesday & Friday: Plyometrics for legs (i.e. jumpies)
Wednesday & Saturday: 4 x 10 back extension
Sunday: Rest
Monday: 3 x 10’ @ 24spm (4 min), 26spm (3 min), 28spm (2 min), 30spm
Tuesday & Friday: 2 x 1250m @ 34spm
Tuesday & Friday: Extra 45 min of cross training cardio.
Wednesday, Thursday & Saturday: Varies
For the plyometrics, the simplest program is to work your way up to 3 x 100 jumpies. For example, start with something like 6 x 20 your first week, and then slowly work your way up.
On Wednesdays, Thursdays, and Sundays, do shorter anaerobic sprint pieces. Good examples are 5 x 2000, 5 x 5’, and 6 x 2’.
Complete at least two 8 x 500 ergs before your next 2k. Do the pieces at the following stroke rates: 26, 28, 30, 32, 29, 31, open, open. Rest for 1:45 after each piece, and 8 minutes after the fourth. If you can break a 1:35 average for all eight pieces then you should now be able to break 6:20 on the 2k.
(Alternate version: 6 x 500m open. Rest for 1 min after each piece. Drop the fastest, drop the slowest, and the average of the middle four is your 2k split.)
The most important thing to remember here is never skip the 2 x 45’ in favor of the sprint pieces. Approximately 70% of your 2k speed comes from base cardio, and the sprint workouts contribute only a small fraction to the remaining 30%. At the elite level about 100k per week is the break-even point. That is, if you’re doing more than 100k per week you’re gaining cardio, and if you’re doing less than 100k per week you’re losing cardio. That’s not to say that doing sprint work isn’t extremely important, but as it gets closer to sprint season a lot of people start doing less cardio and only focus on the sprint pieces. This is a huge mistake. Never do sprint workouts unless you’re already doing at least 100k per week.
Assumptions, caveats, and prerequisites
- You are a lightweight male between the ages of 16 and 38. If not you can always modify goals and workouts as long as they remain consistent with the principles outlined above.
- This guide is written for people trying to go from anywhere under 7:00 to just under 6:20. It's not intended for beginners trying to go from 9:00 to 7:00, nor is it meant for those trying to go from 6:18 to 6:08.
- At least 3+ years of general fitness, including basic experience with strength training, cardio, stretching, and competition. You don’t need to currently be in great shape, but you do need to know what you’re doing and have some basic muscle memory in place.
- Getting fast is either the first or second most important thing in your life. Meaning that if your number one priority is school/work, then training has to take priority over hanging out with friends and significant others, partying, staying out late, surfing the web, etc. This system will only work if you have a love of sport and a strong intrinsic motivation to be the best.
- You know how to erg, row, and lift weights safely. If not visit Row2K to find a learn-to-row program in your area.
- This guide assumes you have at least a minimum of non rowing-specific strength. You don’t need the perfect beach body by any means, but you should hopefully be able to do 20 dips and bench 155. If not then spend six weeks or so working on this before you get started, perhaps concurrently with a longer version of the two-week cardio plan outlined below. The reason is that for the next six months you’ll be focusing almost exclusively on rowing muscles, so you want to make sure your antagonistic muscles (pecs, triceps, hamstrings) are strong enough that you don’t injure yourself. Some of the book recommendations below may be highly useful for creating an appropriate program.
- Similarly, you'll want to go back to training your antagonistic muscles, as well as doing core and cross training, for 2.5 - 3 months once this program is over before repeating this program next year. Otherwise you won't have enough base strength in your non-rowing muscles to avoid injury.
- If you’re completely out of shape when starting this, then you might want to take at least two weeks to ease into the erging. Try something like 15 minutes the first day, 25 minutes for the next two days, 35 minutes for the next three days, 45 minutes the next four days, and 2 x 35 min for 5 days. Hopefully you are steady stating at least under 2:30 by the time you start the full workout plan.
- The biggest caveat here is with the pull-ups. For me I found that I gained strength very quickly using this method, but then eventually topped out around 35. While this is really all you need to break 6:20, I feel like there are probably ways to improve upon this component after the first three months. Again, the reason you are plotting your progress in excel is so you can see if your improvement is starting to level off. If it does, figure out why and modify the workouts as needed.
- Consider substituting some of the pull-ups for bench pull after the first three months, especially if you are already close to hitting your pull-ups goal. The only reason I didn’t include this in the standard plan is that most people don’t have access to the necessary equipment. Basically the suggested workout would become:
Monday: 6 x max weighted pull-ups
Thursday: 6 x 20 bench pull
Once you’re able to do over 30 pull-ups on your first set without weight, add 10 lbs using a dip belt. Then add another 5lbs every time you’re able to do 20 or more on your first set for two workouts in a row. - Start on plyometrics early if you’re already close to hitting your goal for squats after the first three months.
- If you reach a point where you’re no longer making acceptable improvements in your cardio, trying alternating light and heavy weeks. I find that doing over 144k per week on average is unsustainable, but if you’re already pushing this limit and struggling to improve then try alternating between doing 185k one week and then only 100k the next. This seems to work well, but I’d recommend against doing it more than two cycles in a row.
If you want to be the fastest then you need to have the most strength, the most cardio, and the most flexibility. Unfortunately all too often stretching takes the back seat behind the other two components of fitness even though it’s equally important. Therefore I’m taking the position that the best stretching routine is the one that you do every day. And the best way to do this is to create a routine that you actually enjoy because it feels good. To that end I’d recommend doing the stretches below in the order listed. Doing the wrong stretches or doing them in the wrong order can be really tedious. The idea here is to create something that’s aesthetically appealing while at the same time hitting all the muscle groups required to keep you safe and maximize your 2k.
- Aerobic Flexibility - Stretches #1, #3, and #2
- Wrist flexors stretch.
- Shoulder stretch.
- The hurdler stretch. First with each leg extended, then with both legs extended. The goal here is to get your chest as close as possible to your knees.
- Quads stretch.
- The thoracic stretch.
- The butterfly stretch.
- The cobra stretch.
- The Achilles stretch. If you prefer this can also be done on all fours (pushup position) instead of against the wall.
If it’s a lifting day then warm up for at least ten minutes and stretch out fully before lifting. I find that for that quad stretch flexibility gains tend to be limited after the first couple months, but it’s still important to always do this before and after squats so that your muscles fibers don’t shorten up as they heal.
If it’s a race day then warm up as usual but only stretch lightly. This is because heavy stretching makes your muscles significantly weaker for the next few hours. This has only a minimal effect on your steady state cardio, but it makes a big difference when it comes to racing.
Core Strength
Core strength is popularly believed to prevent chronic use injuries. While the scientific evidence is somewhat equivocal I think it’s safe to assume that at least a solid baseline level of fitness here is necessary, if not a p90x beach body physique. Here are three exercises below:
- Pillar bridges – Get into pushup position. Hold for 10 seconds. Raise and extend right arm. Hold for 10 seconds. Switch arms. Hold for 10 seconds. Raise and extend right leg. Hold for 10 seconds. Switch Legs. Hold for 10 seconds. Raise and extend right leg and left arm. Hold for 10 seconds. Switch arms and legs. Hold for ten seconds. Hold pushup position for 10 seconds.
The way you get better than this is by increasing the amount of time you can hold each position. Try to get to the point where you can hold each position for 25 seconds. Be careful not to let your lower back sag because this can cause damage. - Cherry Pickers - Remember, the goal isn’t just to move your arms back and forth, but rather to isolate your core muscles and use them to twist your entire trunk from side to side.
- Leg Lifts - Lie flat on back with head and shoulder blades off ground. Lift both legs so heels are six inches off the ground and knees are straight. Hold for one minute.
This above shouldn’t be taken as a complete routine, but rather as just a few exercises to get started. You should supplement the above by layering in other core exercises as necessary.
Food
I’d recommend picking up Nancy Clark’s book on sports nutrition. This book is invaluable, especially when cutting weight for race season. No special diet is needed to complete these workouts, just remember to eat something in between 45-minute pieces to prevent chronic glycogen depletion.
My only other tip is to try the Seth Godin breakfast. It’s healthy, low calorie, and delicious. Try it with cilantro, sprouts, and grape tomatoes.
Learning to pull hard
Knowing how to pull hard is the most important thing in rowing. However it’s also something this particular guide doesn’t put a lot of emphasis on. If this is something you need to work on then try adding in the following sprint workouts:
- Erg: 2 sets of 8 min @ 14 spm
- Erg or Water: 4 sets of 10 on 10 off 10 times. If you do this in the boat try dragging the bucket on the first and third set.
- Gamut: 1min on, 1min off, 1 min on. The original gamut erg is an excellent tool for learning how to pull hard because there is a lot of resistance at the catch and very little at the finish. Because of this it rewards the out-of-control energy that makes the 8+ win championships.
- Erg: 100 meter sprints
- Erg or water: 500m sprints. (Or quarter mile sprints if rowing the 1x.)
None of the stuff below is necessary, but here is a list of ideas for if you have some extra time and want to experiment.
- Supplements - The only supplements I'd recommend are the ones that are generally recommended anyway for health reasons: a basic multivitamin like this or this, Omega-3, and Co Q10. That said, if you want to try something crazy, try drinking a Red Bull and a couple teaspoons of honey 30-45 minutes before a big erg test. It sounds disgusting, and it kind of is, but the raw energy surge and pulling aggression you get from this is completely ineffable. (But don’t have more than one because WADA and the NCAA have strict limits on acceptable caffeine use.)
- Hypoxic tent – This is a low oxygen tent that you sleep in to increase your red blood cell count. This allows your blood to hold more oxygen, which improves athletic performance.
- Power Lung – Supposedly strengthens lung strength. The claim is that A) the feeling of gasping for breath you get at the end of the race happens because your lung muscles are exhausted, not because you’re not getting enough air. And B) that gasping for breath wastes an enormous amount of energy that should be going into your rowing.
- Jump training - If you’re more ambitious with your plyometrics you can purchase one of the vertical jump workouts designed for basketball. There are several readily available that you can find via a simple Google search, although I can’t personally vouch for the safety or efficacy of any individual program.
- Logging workouts - In addition to keeping a journal with all of my workout data, I also like logging my workouts in more creative ways as a more visceral reminder of how much I’ve accomplished. One example of this is eating one power bar for every 90-minute piece you do, and then saving the empty boxes. The greatest idea I ever came up with was switching showers after each cardio workout. The gym where I went to college had 72 showerheads, so with an average of roughly 22,000 meters per 90-minute piece it took well over 1.5 million meters to work my way around the facility.
- Positive visualization - There are several books about applying positive visualization to sports. Brad Alan Lewis's book Assault On Lake Casitas actually has a whole chapter about this.
- Concept2 Training Guide for indoor rowing.
- Rowing Faster - A book about rowing training by Volker Nolte.
- Lactate Threshold Training - As the reviewers point out, this book is poorly edited, difficult to understand, and even contradictory in places. But there are still some good ideas if you're willing to slog through it.
- Super Sport Systems - ($488 per year)
Books and movies about rowing:
- The Shell Game
- Assault On Lake Casita
- The Amateurs
- Olympic Obsession
- Mind Over Water
- The Compleat Dr. Rowing
- A Fine Balance
- A Hero For Daisy
Hacker News user PaulHoule has an excellent set of book recommendations for sports training:
"I'm skeptical of anybody who claims to have a simple answer to success at weight training. The more I learn about weight training, the more ignorant I feel.
A few books I've enjoyed lately are 'Starting Strength' by Rippetoe and Killgore and Brookfield's 'Mastery of Hand Strength'. The latter book is a real eye-opener: every page is stuffed with information that makes sense, but you never would have thought of. (Hand development, of course, is important for computer keyboardists.)
Although it's not a complete weightlifting manual, I like the attitude of Bruce Lee's 'Art of Expressing the Human Body', which turned me on to circuit training. Some other good books which are more focused on bodyweight training are Cook's 'Athletic Body in Balance' and Boyle's 'Functional Training For Sports'."
Men's Health has a similar set of book recommendations. It's important to note though that these books aren't specific for rowing, so many are geared toward training entirely different muscular aptitudes. Rowers are generally trying to maximize their average power per unit muscle mass over a 240 stroke race, so it would be an enormous mistake to simply follow a training guide designed to bulk you up as fast as possible.
As far as heart rate monitors go, you don't need anything fancy. You just need something that will be able to display your current heart rate, as well as your average heart rate at the end of your workout. Currently the two best heart rate monitors that fulfill these needs seem to be the Polar FS3C and the Timex T5G971.
My personal data
As promised, I want to share some of my personal data about how this program worked for me. When I started this program I had already rowed previously for many years at a reasonably high level, before taking a 1.5 year hiatus. During this time I was almost completely sedentary, except for things like walking around campus between classes. As such, I was completely out of shape when I started training again and could barely keep my erg avereage below 2:30 at a 155 heart rate. I took 2 - 3 weeks to work my way into the program, as described above, and then followed the program diligently for the next 4 months.
At this point I unfortunately had to take 2.5 months off due to a medical problem that was being exacerbated by training. After these 2.5 months I trained lightly again for a month, attending team practices but not erging or lifting at all on my own. After these few weeks back I was able to pull a 6:23.3 on the erg, even though I was nowhere near in the physical shape I had been before. Thus it stands to reason that even if I wasn't in good enough shape to have broken 6:20 before this break, I probably would have come very very close.
More importantly, I had easily achieved my training targets for pull-ups and squats, and was less than a month away from achieving the erg targets as well. So, as it stands, while I'm not the fastest collegiate lightweight rower ever to have rowed, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who got to my level of fitness faster than I did. Not only this, but the data suggests that I still had a ton of potential left as my rate of improvement hadn't yet started to significantly decrease. But don't take my word for it, download my workout data for the first four months and see for yourself.
Final thoughts
If you make it through the above then you should have little difficulty in ultimately breaking 6:20. The real trick is staying motivated.
So far as I can tell there are really only two ways to go about this. The first is to regularly visualize yourself winning and achieving your goals. The idea here is to motivate yourself by the thought of getting to go out and fuck up someone else’s day. If you’re the kind of person who enjoys this then it’s theoretically possible to make it work almost indefinitely.
However, the better longterm strategy I think is to adopt what Hinduism calls the sanyasa-tyaga mindset. That is, take the right actions, but then renounce the consequences. If you can learn to enjoy the process for its own sake then this is the true path to sustainable fastness.
Lastly, don’t be afraid to make changes. But only make changes that are based on data, and that will generate more actionable data. Good decisions are based on patterns, so plan ahead and create workouts that make these patterns easy to spot. As Yogi Berra once said, “You can observe a lot just by watching.”
Thanks for this guide. Do you have any advice as to drag factors for the various erg pieces?
Posted by: evanjacobs | April 25, 2011 at 06:10 PM
"Do you have any advice as to drag factors for the various erg pieces?"
Drag factor should be around 100 for the 90 minute pieces, maybe a little more for the sprint stuff.
Posted by: Alex Krupp | April 25, 2011 at 06:17 PM
Alex - this is a great record of your achievements. Some questions:
1 - which year did you do this?
2 - what is your current personal best 2k?
3 - are you still rowing?
4 - have you ever tried using Rowperfect or Dynamic Concept 2 instead?
I work for www.rowperfect.co.uk and we publish e-books about rowing and training. Would you be interested in having us offer your work on the site?
Rebecca Caroe
Posted by: twitter.com/rebeccacaroe | April 28, 2011 at 08:21 PM
Rebecca,
This was done in summer and fall 2006. I don't have a current best 2k, as I'm not currently rowing for the reasons explained in this thread: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2120613
I actually haven't ever tried either the Rowperfect of Dynamic Concept 2. I probably would if I ever wanted to do this again. I'm generally sold on the idea, but all my university had available at the time was the Concept 2 Model 2. (With optional sliders, which I used for some of the sprint pieces during team practices, but which I found to be too much of a pain to use for the 90 minute pieces.)
Posted by: Alex Krupp | April 28, 2011 at 08:46 PM
If a heavyweight wanted to adapt this programme what would you change? Would the workouts stay the same and the targets change? If so what sort of targets would someone aiming for a 6:10 be looking at.. Thanks!
Posted by: J | May 25, 2011 at 05:44 AM
How tall should one be to expect reasonable success from this program, and what was your starting weight at the beginning of your training?
Posted by: D | May 31, 2011 at 08:02 PM
@D
5'9 - 6'2 is best. I was around 172 when I started the program, and ultimately weighed in at 155.
Posted by: Alex Krupp | June 01, 2011 at 09:22 AM
Have you done any workouts such as 4x1k 12 minute intervals, 4x2k 7min rest or 8x500m with 2:30 rest? What's your 1k PR?
I have been training for the past two years harder than ever and havent made much improvement. My personal best is a 6:49.
Some of splits ares 8x500 1:38.5
4x1k 1:41.5
4x2k 146.8
1k PR 139.3 still with all of this im never prepared for a 2k on test day and always do awful.
Posted by: chris | June 13, 2011 at 09:09 AM
@J
"Would the workouts stay the same and the targets change? If so what sort of targets would someone aiming for a 6:10 be looking at.. Thanks!"
The workouts would stay the same, but the targets would change. However, I don't know exactly what the targets would be offhand. You would have to talk to a bunch of people who pull sub 6:10 and then get their benchmarks on each of these metrics.
My wild-ass guess would be:
steady stating at sub 1:50 for 90 minutes at a 155 heart rate
385 lbs for squats
32 pullups
But again these are really just guesses. It also depends somewhat on each individual person depending on their physiology. That's why recording your workouts is so important, because it lets you not only change the workouts as necessary, but also refine your targets as necessary.
Posted by: Alex Krupp | July 12, 2011 at 10:41 AM
@Chris
"Have you done any workouts such as 4x1k 12 minute intervals, 4x2k 7min rest or 8x500m with 2:30 rest? What's your 1k PR?"
I haven't done any of these workouts to the best of my knowledge. The sprint work I chose to include is somewhat arbitrary. What's important is that you're doing roughly the volume I recommend, and that when you do it you're pulling your flat-out hardest. So you could substitute my recommendations for your workouts if you like. (Unlike the 90 minute cardio sessions and the weights where I would recommend doing them as is, at least until you have enough data to make intelligent data-driven decisions for yourself.)
Posted by: Alex Krupp | July 12, 2011 at 10:47 AM
For what it's worth, there is some additional discussion of this post here:
http://usrowers.com/talkrowing/lofiversion/index.php?t11942.html
Posted by: Alex Krupp | August 24, 2011 at 03:39 PM
When working your way to being able to do the steady state would you suggest doing steady state at a 155 heart rate and just work on getting the split down at that heart rate or should I start out at a 1:55 split time and just keep doing it because as I get used to it my heartrate will go down.
Posted by: Doug | September 05, 2011 at 08:02 PM
@Doug
You need to erg at 75% of your max hr, which is usually around 150 - 155 for most people. It's fine even if you have to keep it at 2:30 (or even worse) for the first couple weeks, you'll quickly improve. However, if you just row at 1:55 regardless of your HR then you won't actually improve because your body won't be using the right sources of energy. (You need to train your aerobic system, which doesn't happen if your HR is too high.) The concept 2 training guide I link to explains the actual physiology, as I think does the Lactate Threshold Training book or probably most other books on the science of endurance training.
Posted by: Alex Krupp | September 05, 2011 at 10:08 PM
I really like what you are doing here, and I think I am going to try to jump on this program. One question, what is the reason for keeping the drag factor at 100? I would have assumed to keep it around a 130ish?
Posted by: Brett | October 12, 2011 at 10:19 AM
@Brett,
Great! Good luck with the program.
As for the drag factor, I usually just set the damper halfway between 3 and 4, which is around 100 on my home erg and around 113 on the one I use at the gym. I think the biggest argument for keeping it a little bit lower is that erging puts some stress on your lower back at the catch, especially when going at a slow stroke rate where the flywheel has time to slow down significantly between each stroke.
The benefit of the lower stroke rate though is that I think it's a little easier on other parts of your body, in terms of avoiding things like carpal tunnel and other overuse type injuries. So that's why I advocate the low stroke rate, but with also a fairly low drag factor.
Posted by: Alex Krupp | October 12, 2011 at 05:46 PM
A discussion about this training guide on Reddit, specifically about the logic behind the weight training recommendations:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Rowing/comments/ttdy3/update_re_faq_and_sidebar_an_update_and_thanks/c4pl77z
Posted by: Alex Krupp | May 24, 2012 at 12:08 PM
Hi Alex,
Thank you for the guide. I have a few questions that I hope you can answer. The first has to do with rowing strength/pulling hard. I rowed for three years before stopping four months ago. My squat was relatively never that high (220max @165lbs) and my pull-ups were always around 25 max. On the water and the erg I could pull very hard for a short distance (20-40 strokes) compared to guys who were squatting close to 360lbs max at 185lbs. On the erg I could pull a 1:14 for one stroke and now I can pull 1:34 @20spm (I didn't measure this at the time I was rowing). In a single I could keep up with senior national team scullers for ~2 min with a rate cap of 20 and keep with our eights for 3 open rate 1' on 1' off pieces. However, the stronger I got in the weight room/erg/water, my erg 2k didn't come down. My best was 6:55. When I rowed the single, I noticed that when I put the power on I could really move the boat but that I couldn't sustain that pressure for 2k.
So my first question is, is strength (320-360lbs squat, 35 pull-ups) always a limiting factor to a sub 6:20 2k? If not, then how do I know when is enough and should I then focus my training time on cardio?
Secondly, I always thought of myself more as a sprinter than a long distance runner. I've learned from reading a lot of rowing literature including "Lactate Threshold Training", that to be the fastest rower I need to be more of a long distance runner type. So then my question then is, do I need to adjust the program based on my individual need of more aerobic (75%HR SS) and less anerobic (Lifting)?
Thirdly, what do you think about training based on watts at lactate as opposed to watts at HR? Theoretically, they should correlate to the same watt but, from what I've read, HR is not as reliable a source of optimum training intensity as is lactate. Assuming that lactate testing is available, do you recommended to do the steady state work at a watt that correlates to 1.8-2.0 millimoles per liter and retest every week to check progress?
Posted by: Ali | May 27, 2012 at 04:24 PM
@Ali
- Is strength (320-360lbs squat, 35 pull-ups) always a limiting factor to a sub 6:20 2k?
Nope. There are definitely people who are able to break 6:20 without meeting all (or even any) of those goals. Basically, if you're able to meet all of those goals it means that you should be able to break 6:20 without an excessive amount of difficulty. But just because you can't meet them doesn't mean it's not possible, it's just usually not a safe bet that you will.
- do I need to adjust the program based on my individual need of more aerobic (75%HR SS) and less anerobic (Lifting)?
I wouldn't. I tend to find that more than ~144k per week average on the erg is unsustainable for more than a few weeks. So you're essentially already doing all of the erging-specific cardio that you can do. Of course you can also row (in the boat) or sit on the bike/elliptical on top of this, which is generally good, but even then I don't think there is any reason to be doing more than 2.5 hours per day of cardio unless you're actually training for the Olympics. (In which case this probably wouldn't be the best workout program, since it's really designed to take you from sub 7 to sub 6:20, not from 8:30 to 7 minutes or from 6:20 to 6:05.)
In any event I would still try to improve your ability at squats at least, if you're only able to squat 220 then breaking 6:20 is definitely a long shot. Even the least strong people I knew who were able to break 6:20 were still probably squatting 280 or so.
- what do you think about training based on watts at lactate as opposed to watts at HR?
It's been too long since I've been up to date on lactate training so I can't really give advice. The thing I like about heart rate is that it varies wildly depending on what other work you've done that day/week, how hydrated you are, the temperature, etc. Which means that some workouts were done at a much faster pace than others. I had very good results this way, varying the speed of the piece depending on my heart rate at any given moment. Whether this is a good thing or a bad thing is difficult to say, but it certainly worked very well for me.
Posted by: Alex Krupp | May 28, 2012 at 04:42 PM
Thank you, Alex, for the answers! I am keeping track of my training so that when I finish in 6 months and pull sub 6:20, I will share my data like you have. I'm on week 2 right now and have already gained 5 watts on my steady state from last week and 2 pull-ups on my max! Something I've added to my erging is breathing technique. Sounds funny right, but apparently I've been breathing backwards my entire rowing career. Xeno has written that the ideal breathing rhythm is an exhalation at the catch with an inhalation at the finish. At first i couldn't do this backwards one breath cycle for more than a couple strokes without gasping and raising my heart rate. Today was the first day that I was able to get into a good rhythm and the result was my heart rate leveling at 138 and my watts increasing by 10. I was only able to maintain this rhythm for 5 mins but I would say that is great progress. Anyway, thank you again for sharing your info!
Best regards,
Ali
Posted by: Ali | May 29, 2012 at 12:56 AM
Hello, I don't want to make a super long comment although i have something that I think you might find interesting. You guys have been debating the strength training and what works best, subsequently I have something to add. I had a tough first year in rowing at grade 9, my performance on the water has improved but my 2k not so much. Then again, I have not put much time and effort into improving it. I will be doing that though next year through following the Pete plan followed by your wonderful guide here. Anyway, I'll stop getting off topic.
I am 5' 11" and weigh 145 pounds, I have decided that lightweight is my best go at things. The most watts that I could pull at the end of the season was around 500, about a 1:29 split. In a month of weight training I have maintained my weight at 145 pounds (as I was not looking for size), yet I increased my strength and power significantly. Let me tell you what I mean by significant.
I just finished two 10 second tests, without any technique I pulled 619 watts, 611 with it. Anyone with a basic comprehension of math can see that what 500 to over 600 means, an increase in maximum watts of over 20%, that is a lot! I realize that results like that will not be linear and that I am fairly new to rowing, yet I think that is a vast improvement. Just to let you know what I was doing, I followed the men's health power program for a month. I did the strength section that is designed for strength without size. Lower reps naturally.
I recommend that you check out the book; maybe it would inspire new ideas for your plan, probably not although it couldn't hurt to give it a look. I would love to hear your insight.
Cheers,
Eric
Posted by: Eric | June 29, 2012 at 12:00 AM
@Eric,
Sounds like a good plan to me. I checked out the Pete Plan, and it seems reasonably good for a beginner, although I'd recommend doing at least 20 - 30 min of base cardio before each of those workouts, in addition to the circuits.
Remember your goal for where you are shouldn't be to improve your 2k as fast as possible, but rather to get enough base strength / cardio / power for you to able to successfully complete something like what I'm advising in the future. To this extent I think it's fine to do a workout program like this even though it has a little bit more sprint work than would normally be justified. The reason for this is that the sprint work is a key component to helping you learn how to pull hard, which is probably the single most important 'skill' you need to learn as a rower.
The men's health program looks fine, although I'd recommend adding in squats, leg curl, leg extension, bench press, pullups, and dips. It's fine if you're not doing a ton of weight on these, but you want to start on them early in order to master the motions. For some people it can take literally years of doing these with very little weight until they have enough flexibility to do it properly, not to mention that as a beginner it takes an enormous amount of time just to make the first little bits of progress on them. Weight lifting is kind of weird in that way: it takes a really long time just to make a tiny amount of progress, then you start getting good really fast, and then you level off again. Anyway that's why it's good to start actually lifting weights right away though, because ultimately this is probably even more important than cardio for when you're a relative beginner.
Alex
Posted by: Alex Krupp | June 29, 2012 at 12:31 AM
Thank you for the comments.
I am just curious as to what you mean by circuits, do you mean the interval work?
I am hoping that by following the Pete Plan I will get the base fitness (a faster 2k will quite likely be a result) for your program. Your program looks great and like something I could use and enjoy. I almost can't wait for it!
The program does have squats and other free weight exercises. It does not use machines such as the leg curl and extension, this is because it can create muscle imbalances through isolation training. For some reason I didn't personally have many troubles with lifting technique. To ensure a consistent rate of strength increase, I added weight every time I repeated an exercise. There was usually about a week between repeating. I only added weight though if I felt confident, that being said I did push myself.
One thing I would like to add and throw at you is Olympic lifting.It can be difficult to get the technique at first, although it greatly improved my power. I would suggest safety precautions before attempting it though; I received instruction.
Thank you again,
Eric
Posted by: Eric | June 29, 2012 at 01:47 AM
"I am just curious as to what you mean by circuits"
Circuits are a way of doing weightlifting where you go from one exercise to the next in rapid succession, usually doing relatively light amounts of weight or even body weight exercises. (Like the one's in the Men's Health power program you mentioned.)
"The program does have squats and other free weight exercises."
Ahh ok, didn't see that. It's probably fine then.
"a faster 2k will quite likely be a result"
Yeah, it mostly depends what your current 2k is. With programs like that they are good for getting your 2k down to between 6:45 - 7:15, but after that it would be difficult to get down further without much more base cardio than what you'd be doing.
Posted by: Alex Krupp | June 29, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Thank you for your insight. I hope that using the Pete Plan will help me get to the lower part of the range you have said it could give someone, then I'll be able to start your program. I will let you know about my progress after my next 2k test, that should be in February during monster erg. Until then.
Thank you once more,
Eric
Posted by: Eric | June 30, 2012 at 02:20 AM
Would it work to do the 2x 45min erg pieces instead on the water in a single? Also would it work to follow this program in the morning and practice with my team in the afternoon?
Posted by: Omar | September 15, 2012 at 07:30 PM
"Would it work to do the 2x 45min erg pieces instead on the water in a single?"
It would certainly work to do at least some of them in the single. I would still recommend doing at least four per week on the erg though.
"Also would it work to follow this program in the morning and practice with my team in the afternoon?"
Yes, that's basically how it's meant to be done. The only exception is if your team is going to be doing more than an hour of steady state on the erg then it might be best to do less in the morning, but otherwise it's fine if you're doing an hour of cardio on the water plus some pieces or an erg test or whatever. And obviously you shouldn't do squats in the morning and then do them again in the afternoon or the next day, so the weights component is the one area where you really do need to do one or the other unfortunately.
Posted by: Alex Krupp | September 16, 2012 at 02:01 PM
Hey alex, I am currently using your programme.
Into my second week of it here and it's going pretty well, was just wondering though what would you advise to do to extend this programme over a period of 10 months as apposed to 6?
Regards,
Mark
Posted by: Mark | February 12, 2013 at 11:13 AM
I don't currently have good access to gym weights. Is it possible to gain the strength required without doing weights? i.e. body weight or erg pieces? I heard the Danish national lwt team doesnt use weights at all and they have the fastest 2K erg scores.
Posted by: Steve | March 05, 2013 at 11:56 PM
@Steve,
Unfortunately weights are required. You can do strength stuff without weights if you're already at your strength goals and only need to maintain your strength and improve your muscle quality, which I suspect is what the Danish lwt team is doing. But in order to actually get strong in the first place (at least in a reasonable period of time) then there isn't really any way around using weights.
Posted by: Alex Krupp | March 06, 2013 at 11:31 AM
Hello Alex,
I really like the program you made. I am just about to start it, but I have few questions before I get started. First, what are your thoughts on substituting the dead lift for the back extensions? A member on my team recommended that I do this with the reasoning that the dead lifts will help to gain mass faster, and they still work the back, but also work the hamstrings, which would prevent them from getting too weak in relation to the quads.
Second, would you recommend doing 3 sets instead of 6, but with a larger amount of weight per set? Or is 6 sets better for getting boat speed higher?
My last question is that the first part of the plan is for months 1-3. Does this mean to the end of month three, or to the beginning of month 3? If so, then the second phase of the plan would be from the start of month 4 to month 5.5, and phase 3 would be from month 5.5 to the end of 6, would it not?
Thanks,
Chris
Posted by: Chris | May 16, 2013 at 07:29 PM
@Chris,
>I really like the program you made. I am just about to start it
Thanks, and good luck!
>A member on my team recommended that I do this with the reasoning that the dead lifts will help to gain mass faster, and they still work the back, but also work the hamstrings, which would prevent them from getting too weak in relation to the quads.
Personally I've tended to avoid deadlifts because they seem to have a high chance of causing back injuries, but that actually makes a lot of sense. I'd say go for it if you're already a junior in HS or above, but just be careful. I'd still recommend doing back extensions during the off season though. It's hard to do above a certain amount of weight with back extension because you have to either hold it with your arms or else try to use a bar on your back, both of which are difficult, but it's good to have a certain amount of base strength there.
>Would you recommend doing 3 sets instead of 6, but with a larger amount of weight per set? Or is 6 sets better for getting boat speed higher?
I'd recommend six because I think the chances of injuring your back are lower, and I think it's more effective for anything longer than a few weeks. If you wanted to switch to sets of 3 in the last 3-4 weeks before your main event of the year then I think that might make sense, I just wouldn't do that all year round. Beyond just the risk of injury, I don't think you'd see any extra benefits in terms of boat speed from doing sets of 3 for more than a few weeks. That's the kind of thing where it can work to squeeze out the last percent or two of speed, but after that you're probably not going to keep seeing any further improvements.
>My last question is that the first part of the plan is for months 1-3. Does this mean to the end of month three, or to the beginning of month 3?
Part one goes until the end of the third month, so a full 12 weeks.
Posted by: Alex Krupp | May 16, 2013 at 07:53 PM
Thanks for the answers! I think it's really impressive that you still reply to comments even though the guide itself is several years old. If (big if here) I make it the entire way through, I'll definitely post my data.
Posted by: Chris | May 21, 2013 at 06:17 PM
Hey Alex, I'm 18 years old and I've been rowing for 4 years. I'm 5'8" and I have read through your program and it looks awesome. I will definitely pick it up this summer. In terms of flexibility, i have alot. i am the most flexible guy on my team. Is there a way to gauge flexibility, i can put my hands and wrists on the ground when i forward fold. How flexible should i become? Yoga, like bikram (heat yoga). Love to hear from you, thanks.
Also, what was the reason you started rowing? how long, and what made you stick with it for the time being.
Posted by: Willy | May 24, 2013 at 06:03 AM
Hi, do you still reply to questions about this program, Alex Krupp?
We (4 lwt rowers in the Netherlands) would love to pick this up, but have some questions we would like to have answered...
Kind regards,
Thomas
Posted by: Thomas | June 27, 2014 at 09:41 AM
@Thomas,
Sure, what questions do you have?
Alex
Posted by: Alex Krupp | June 27, 2014 at 01:11 PM
Hi Alex,
thanks for the quick response!
1) Do you use any kind of protein supplements after the pullups/squat sessions?
2) Our current PR's are between 6:35 and 6:50; do you have any examples of people who did this program and reached the target of sub 6:20? Basically, we feel that sub 6:20 is very far away... (In Holland there are very few lwt rowers who reach this)
3) As far as food; how many kcal did you eat per day? Doing 2x45' burns alot, and I guess you'd need to eat loads to maintain the training program..
4) We need to perform at the Euro Open 2015 in Amsterdam (January 17), do you think starting at the end of august is a good time schedule? Our season ends next week, and after that most of us will keep cycling/rowing but on a lower intensity.
Thanks in advance!
Thomas
Posted by: Thomas | June 30, 2014 at 02:59 AM
@Thomas,
Sorry your comment got stuck in my spam folder. Anyway:
1) I wasn't, but it probably wouldn't hurt in moderation.
2) I don't actually have any examples. This program has gotten a lot of attention recently, but relatively few people have actually done it... Given the prerequisites, it's basically only well suited for a relatively small subset of rowers, and as with probably any plan I get the impression that most of the people who start it don't necessarily get that far. Not sure this is necessarily a bad, but certainly it means that the plan has yet to be 'proven' or whatever. But that being said, as someone pointed out on Reddit recently, none of the stuff in here is especially novel. What's new is the way that it's packaged, as well as combining some American ideas with some European ones. I think for where you are breaking 6:20 definitely isn't unrealistic, and if you don't get there then in all likelihood you'll still get closer than you would with any other program.
3) Yeah you definitely do need to eat a lot, but I don't remember offhand how much I was eating. I think it was at least 3,500 calories per day though.
4) Starting in August would be fine.
Posted by: Alex Krupp | July 10, 2014 at 12:28 AM
Hello Alex,
I found this place through Reddit, read all of it and i'm currently in a preparatory phase.
I started rowing a bit less than a year ago with a background of general strength training, so i'm really not too far away from meeting those goals. (olympic squat and pull ups)
I actually only started doing real steady state training this month by buying an old C2 model B. Doing 60' erg @ 155hr, 5 times a week, and currently at a 2:14 av split. I'm planning on sustaining this until October where i'll be switching to 2x45', my strength goals will be met by then.
1) Does this mean i can do a strength maintaining routine that will be less taxing? How did you go about this in the last month or two?
2) My 2K PR is 6:56. To be 100% sure i make the 8+ it should preferably be around 6:35. Is this program for me? Or do i have to put in the same consistency and effort, just over a shorter period of time?
Stats: 6' @ 174lbs
Kind regards
Posted by: Simon | August 17, 2014 at 02:26 PM
@Simon,
1) I'd recommend doing the same strength routine to start, and then once you reach the strength goals doing only two or three sets with the same number of reps you'd otherwise be doing, instead of doing the full six sets.
2) You should be easily under 6:35. Again I would do the program as is, but expect that you will break that in 3 - 4 months rather than six. Once you break 6:35 you can either continue the program (but in maintenance mode for squats and pullups), or else continue at a reduced workload.
Posted by: Alex Krupp | August 18, 2014 at 08:39 PM
Thanks a ton! Really gives me a boost!
Posted by: Simon | August 19, 2014 at 05:54 AM
Hi Alex,
We've been doing this for about 3-4 weeks now, but we have some discussion about HR for the SS.
For me 75% of max HR would mean about 140-145 (max test said my max is about 190 bpm), but you say that you did it at about 155? Could you elaborate on this?
One of our teammates claimed you might mean 'effective HR'-> defining the HR to SS on as follows:
MAXHR - RESTHR*0.75
which for me would be about 160...
Looking forward to your reply,
Thomas
Posted by: Thomas | September 16, 2014 at 03:58 AM
Thomas,
I meant 75% of max -- my max HR when I did this was 206/207. If your max is really 190 then I'd keep it under 145. The idea is that you want to train just under your anaerobic threshold.
Posted by: Alex Krupp | September 22, 2014 at 03:36 PM
Hey Alex,
Really cool program, I've been showing it to all the varsity guys on my team, showing them what a lightweight can do (and what those 200lbs guys should be accomplishing)
I'm a novice rower, only 5ft 9in and 137lbs. Just started this fall, and I'm working towards a sub 7min 2k before my first year is over. I know this plan isn't exactly for me, but being in a position to implement this plan is a goal of mine.
That being said, do you have advice/links for someone in my situation? Trying to go from solidly sub 8min to solidly under 7min seems like a big jump but I believe it can be done. Hoping someone with your experience would have some idea of how to jumpstart a small guy's rowing career.
If this helps: My last 20min test was completed at a 2:04.
Thanks!
Posted by: Sid | November 03, 2014 at 12:41 PM
Thought I would let you know how my progress is going!
- I've been lazy on my squat, right now 285lbs 1RM.
- 2x45': i'm happy with the progress so far, 2:03-2:05 @ 150-155hr.
- My best 2K last season was 6:56 (absolutely all out, completely shattered after that), two weeks ago i tried my very first 2K of this season and hit 6:52, no racing preparation
- I've gained more flexibility through the stretch routine, noticed better performance on the water due to this.
- Up until 1 week ago i had been building up to the training volume of 2x45' 6 times a week, 1 month longer than i had planned.
- Motivation is on point as well. I trust this program and am confident that it will get me fit enough for the 8+.
- The mentality aspect of this program is starting to change me as an individual: prioritizing college, family, sports, girlfriend etc. is something I've never been good at, but i'm starting to notice that as you get older this requires more attention!
Posted by: Simon | November 06, 2014 at 02:29 PM
Hi Alex, I am around 10 weeks in and I am starting to think about the hard pieces. Are they flat out or is there a target intensity/HR?
Posted by: Cormac | February 25, 2015 at 02:21 PM
@Cormac,
The 3x10' is as fast as you can go without completely dying on the third one, the others are all flat out. If you are doing comparable sprint work with your team though then that can substitute for these pieces, even if it's on the water. (Whereas with cardio it's generally hard to get enough cardio in the right HR zone.)
Posted by: Alex Krupp | February 25, 2015 at 05:18 PM
Hey, Alex. Really thought-out workout plan and I've very interested in starting it. I'm around 5'10 and weight 170 - what was your height/weight when you started? Thank you for continuing to reply! Much appreciation.
Posted by: Ryan | March 17, 2015 at 09:58 PM
How would you include water sessions into this programme, would you sub them in or add them on?
Cheers Sam
Posted by: Tim | April 12, 2015 at 05:07 AM
Hey Alex!
This might be an obvious question, but just to be sure.. The goal is to be able to do 6x35 pull-ups and 6x10 (olympic)squats 320lbs+?
Also, what do you think about front squats instead of back squats? I have a lot of difficulty doing the olympic (back) squats without tilting my pelvis. Could I replace the squats with front squats? I feel like it is less hard on my back and knees.
Thanks!
Posted by: Eric | April 25, 2015 at 08:20 AM
Alex,
I am a 135lb lightweight at 5'10 and my 2k currently is 7:35. Will your program be significantly more difficult for me at such a light weight? Will it help me to gain weight? Would you recommend incorporating yoga into the schedule for flexibility? Thank you for the article, and I will likely follow it throughout the summer.
Posted by: Jack | May 11, 2015 at 08:21 AM
@Jack
At your weight and 2k time, I'd actually recommend doing more general general strength and fitness stuff rather than following this program -- running, rowing the 1x, general strength training, 10k erg pieces, etc. You want to do lifts for rowing of course, but not the the exclusion of everything else. Part of the reason for writing the plan is that most people, when they do a sort of general fitness program that involves rowing as well as other cardio and balanced lifting, eventually their erg scores cap out somewhere between 6:40 and 7:00. So at that point you really need to do a very focused program targeting only rowing specific stuff in order to get to the next level. The problem is, if you do a super focused program like this too early then it's just as bad, because you need a base of general fitness in order to be successful and not injure yourself. So yeah, by all means use this plan as an inspiration, but at this point I'd recommend just working with your coaches and waiting another summer before doing this.
As for yoga, definitely incorporate it. The one thing I'd recommend there is just doing semi-private sessions (e.g. 4 or 5 folks per instructor) rather than the large group sessions, at least until you nail the technique for the poses. It's a little more expensive that way, but I think worth the extra 20 bucks a week or whatever to reduce your chance of hurting yourself.
Posted by: Alex Krupp | May 11, 2015 at 06:26 PM
Hi Alex,
I started this plan September 2014 and by February 2015 I went down from 6:44 to 6:18. I was able to get this score after doing 20 pullups, squating 200lbs, and doing only one 45 minute piece everyday avg 1:49 SR19 at open heart rate. I know this plan is designed for a LW rower but I did it as a HW weighing 84kg and height 187cm.
Best,
Omar
Posted by: Omar | June 11, 2015 at 11:23 AM
Hi,
I've been following your plan loosely for a few months now and have begun to notice a plateau for my erging, at around 1:57.Is going a few points above 75% causing this, or do you think more km's are required?
Posted by: Thomas | June 15, 2015 at 05:38 AM
Alex,
I've been reading this with some interest. I've rowered in my first 2 years of UNI and raced lightweight in my second year. In my 3rd year i was off rowing for about 9/10 months due to a placement year. I've been keeping up weight training with decent frequency (about 4 times a week) but have forgone ergo fitness.
My previous best 2k was 6:40 at about 73/74 kg. And that was a poorly executed 2k.
I'll be doing the first couple of months of this program to hopefully get my fitness standard back before starting back on my coaches program come the start of our season. With an end goal of beating 6:45 come November.
I've a few questions:
1) 100 drag factor? Is this not really low, we have been advised that lightweights should train at 135/130 (can't remember which exactly). I suppose the question is, is there a reason for it being this low?
2) Are you saying our goal is a 145kg squat for 6x10?? Or are you aiming our max squat to be that? I saw this because 145kg for 6x10 is one hell of a target.
3) the 155 heart rate. I understand it's purpose but i have always found my HR to be so high in everything i do. We would do 30 minute tests where my heart rate would average 196 and max 210 where i would be matching folk's times that are sitting considerably lower than that. Not sure if that's an indicator that my HR sits a bit naturally high or the opposition wernt trying hard enough/i pushed myself harder?
Thanks
Jason
Posted by: Jason Armstrong | June 25, 2015 at 05:26 AM
Alex,
I've done lactic acid testing and understand the full logic here. However, I have heard mixed opinions on weather you should hold say 155BPM and if it starts increasing then you pull less or you start at 150 BMP and you let it gradually increase while holding the same split(only goes up 10-15 beats).
Thanks,
Anthony
Posted by: Anthony Vournazos | December 16, 2015 at 08:42 PM
@Anthony,
I always decreased the split to keep my HR at the same rate, and got good results doing this. Sometimes this meant going really slow, especially if I was doing this after lifting or if it was 100+ degrees inside. But that didn't seem to affect my rate of improvement.
I've also seen on r/rowing people recommending keeping the split the same as your heart rate increases. This seems somewhat dubious to me, on the grounds that:
A) Your heart rate can keep increasing pretty much indefinitely. E.g. if it's 100 degrees out and you just lifted, I'm not convinced that you're still doing steady state if you're erging at 185 bpm or whatever.
B) Even under normal conditions, whose to say where exactly cardio drift kicked in. E.g. you're obviously going to be able to go a little faster for the first ten minutes while your HR is still getting up to speed, but when exactly do you decide this is the split you're going to stay at for the rest of the piece?
Even if keeping your pace were more efficient in theory, which I'm not convinced is the case, I wouldn't be surprised if in practice people doing it this way were further off their ideal HR on average than people who just vary their split to keep the same HR.
Posted by: Alex | December 17, 2015 at 12:34 PM
Thanks I'll definitely try that out.
One more thing- you say to rest every 15 minutes when doing 2X45 minutes and a longer rest between the two sets. Is it better if you are capable to just do 2x45 minutes with a 2 minute rest in between and that's it. I know you say you need to stretch and replenish, but you also said it is not ideal
Thanks again
-Anthony
Posted by: Anthony Vournazos | December 17, 2015 at 03:26 PM
@Anthony,
By take a water break every 15 min, I just meant drop the handle for a couple strokes, take a big gulp or two of water, and get back to it. It shouldn't take more than 10 - 15 seconds.
The point of the 15 min rest between the pieces is to get in some extra stretching, and run to the bathroom if you need to. This actually is also good for letting your heart rate reset a little to offset some of the cardiac drift, which might be partly why I had good results by varying by split to keep my HR the same.
And I think taking a break between sets is actually ideal, it's just a balance between competing interests. I.e. it would probably be slightly better on any given day if you just did 90 min straight, but I think the extra stress on your body would leave you worse off in the long run.
Posted by: Alex | December 17, 2015 at 04:00 PM
do you recommend splitting up the erging and lifting during the day? Or doing it all at once? Unfortunately I have work in the summer when I plan to attempt this program, and I work from 7 am to 3pm so my idea was to get the lifting done in the morning and then erging in the afternoon. I look forward to hearing back from you, I really like this plan. Thanks for uploading it!
Posted by: Austin Hill | January 26, 2016 at 02:33 PM
@Austin,
Either is fine. The only benefit of doing them both together is to reduce the likelihood that you won't finish the other half of the day's workout. (And also not having to change and shower the extra time.)
Posted by: Alex | January 26, 2016 at 08:50 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-TjgQKE4CqeI0WM5GLzYMCHUQE45Fcrr2qh0qGP9LG0/edit?usp=docslist_api
Just thought I would share my experience of following a more tame version (1x45 every day + team practise). I am 6'4" 82kg 2k currently 1:39.9. I have a goal date to reach 6:20 shown at the top of the spreadhseet. let me know what you think.
Posted by: Tom | February 08, 2016 at 07:22 AM
@Tom,
This is great! Glad to see someone actually getting the point of logging the work rather than just going through the motions of the workouts themselves. Anyway the one thing I'd note is that with only one piece per days it'll take you a little longer to see longterm trends -- even doing two pieces per day, it was hard to see improvement over time periods shorter than two weeks. So with one piece per day I'd expect the numbers to look more or less random when viewed less than three weeks at a time, so you'll just need a little more patience.
Alex
Posted by: Alex | February 08, 2016 at 12:00 PM
Hi Alex,
Quick question. I was just wondering what you would recommend for resting between the sets up pull ups
Appreciate it,
Anthony
Posted by: Anthony Vournazos | February 23, 2016 at 09:16 PM
@Anthony,
I always did five or even ten minutes between sets because my HR spikes really fast when I do weights, so I'm prone to getting dizzy and/or blacking out otherwise. Most people do less, but taking more time between sets for strength training isn't bad -- in fact it's actually a good thing if it lets you push yourself harder.
Posted by: Alex | February 23, 2016 at 09:30 PM
Hello Alex,
This sounds like a very interesting program and I am very interested in giving it a proper go over the next 6 months or so...however, after doing the first workout this morning a few questions arose that I hope you can clear up.
I guess now is the perfect time to ask them - as I want to make sure I am doing the program as it was intended.
So....I did my first set of 2x45 this morning at around 18-19 spm, I averaged around 2:07-2:08 for both pieces.
My HR was 175bpm pretty much after 5 mins in for both pieces and stayed that way for the entirety of both 45 minute pieces.
About me: I am 40 years old, about 6'4" and weigh 225 lbs. Despite what those heart rate max formulas say, rather than having a max HR of about 180, I hit 209 on my Polar a few times doing 1km race pieces on the water this last Saturday.
My PB for 2k on an erg is 6:28 - however this was done in early 2013.
I never rowed in my youth or in college. I started rowing in my 30's, on water and indoors, albeit inconsistently, and I got serious for a bit for about two years, then took a huge layoff from rowing (ie no rowing at all), and only recently started it up again about 3 months ago.
I do have an athletic background, although mostly with power-type anaerobic sports. I played football and rugby in my past, and for the past 15 years have been a regular gym rat, so my top end strength is pretty good. Basically, you can say that I have an underdeveloped aerobic system, and I get by on raw power as a rower.
So..here's my problem - I find it very hard to row "slow enough" to get my HR into that 75% zone you prescribe. I'm just used to pulling hard and letting my HR fall where it may, which I guess depends on where my fitness is.
Rowing 2:07 @18 felt pretty light almost as if I was going for a paddle yet my HR was at 170-175 the whole time.
When I finished I was drenched in sweat, but was not "tired", it felt as if I had gotten a nice massage. When I do normal long distance pieces, I don't do HR monitoring and will row 18 on the erg @ 1:58-2:00 and can keep that up for an hour, even if I'm a bit tired at the end.
One other data note: I do live in the southeastern US - and it's humid as hell down here - I have read that extreme humidity does have a tendency to jack up the HR...
So..my questions to you are these...
1. Calculating HR Rate - do you use a % of your straight max or do you use % of the HR Reserve using resting HR? (My resting HR this morning was 59)...for example, my sweet spot according to your program using straight max HR is 157 bpm, whereas using HR Reserve, it goes up to 172 and seems to be more in line with what I was pulling this morning...
Based on this - if you are prescribing a % of straight HR Max, then do I try to really, really slow it down to get my HR to the prescribed zone or do I row at this pace (2:07-2:08) and wait for the adaptation to kick in and let my HR creep down as time goes on..or are you implying that if I keep rowing at this somewhat elevated rate it will keep my aerobic system from fully developing?
2. What do you figure the effect of the humidity on all this - I gotta think that to get my HR into the 150's, I would be pulling something like 2:12-2:13 - and it's really hard for me to even pull that light without tweaking my stroke.... it just feels..weird.
Sorry if it was a bit verbose, but wanted to give you as much data as possible in order to give your answer some much sought after specificity.
Regards and looking forward to seeing the results of this program,
-Max
Posted by: Max | March 09, 2016 at 07:02 PM
Hey Alex,
Was hoping you could answer a question I had. Sorry if there isn't really an answer.
Im currently meeting the requirements for this program pretty much dead on apart from I don't really have access/ability/know-how in order to do the free weight training. I do however have access to the erg obviously and was wondering, if solely sticking to the erg pieces+training not involving free weights, what sort of differences might there be in terms of outcome? Thanks for the effort in this, really interesting read.
Many thanks,
- Gareth
Posted by: Gareth | March 17, 2016 at 02:23 PM
@Max,
First, you need to actually measure your max heart rate on the erg. The 'formulas' for estimating max HR are only rough estimates across the entire population, they are completely useless at the individual level and using them will do more hard than good. As for rowing at 75% feeling too easy, the point isn't for it to feel like you're doing work, the point is to do what will get you the fastest improvements. Don't complain about that being easy, just think of it as a bonus.
Even if you're are 2:40 - 3:00 when you're starting out (which is barely even pulling at all) don't worry about it, you'll get dramatically better in a few months if you just stick with the program. There were days when I was starting this program when my splits were in that range for portions of the pieces, and then within 3 - 4 months I had the fastest erg score on my college team. (And I think we were ranked #1 or #2 in the country at the time.) Yes you'll certainly feel really stupid sitting in the gym looking like you're just pretending to work out while everyone else around you is going much faster than you, but don't worry about it, the rewards will come soon enough.
And also yes the heat and humidity will jack up your HR, I think it can actually be beneficial to do them early at morning or late at night when possible. (Assuming that doing them at 8 or 9pm or whenever won't mess up your sleep cycle, which it does for many people.) When you need to do it during the day then just go slower to keep your HR the same... I tend to think that you benefit a little less than erging faster at lower humidity, but then when it's hot you still benefit more from going slower and keeping your HR in the right zone than you would by going faster and rowing at the same pace that you would with lower temperature and humidity. This is kind of an open question for me, but that was kind of my feeling based on rowing indoors in the summer when it was often 100+ degrees in the room with the rowing tanks, so insanely humid as well.
In terms of calculating HR, use your straight max, not reserve. After 10 min or so your heart rate will start creeping up, so just slow down the pace to keep your HR in the same zone. It's fine if it creeps up a few bpm toward the end, but assuming your HR monitor calculates your average HR over the piece (most do) then try to keep your average HR right on the nose for each 45 min piece.
Posted by: Alex | March 17, 2016 at 08:39 PM
@Gareth,
If you don't have free weight training then your physiology probably isn't developed enough yet to be able to get through this volume of erging without injuring yourself. So I'd recommend joining a rowing club where you'll actually get training in rowing-specific lifting. And by this I also include things like bench press, hamstring curls, and dips, which don't contribute to rowing speed but which will keep your body balanced, prepare your body to develop the rowing-specific muscle groups, and help prevent injury.
Posted by: Alex | March 17, 2016 at 08:43 PM
Hi Alex,
I followed your schedule last year and tweaked it a little bit, replacing the 2x45 T19 with 3x30 T20. I am 194 weighing 75kg with a max hart-rate at 211, so I did the 75% on 165/170. Times were around 1:55/1:56. Squat max was around 110. With 3 sessions a week for two months I managed to reduce my PR from 6:39 to 6:28. For me, doing only cardio and weights for 3 a 4 weeks with a transition week with only tempo and hard stuff really helped.
Unfortunately, I got injured just before my 2k test (tendonitis in my finger). Because of this, I did the 3x30 on the bike four times a week. Instead of squats, I did leg press and lunges. We had to train more in the boat (because of the races on real water), but 2 months after my injury, my squat max was 130. 3x30 on 75% was 1:52. Did a 3x1000 as preparation for 2k on 1:34.6 (3min rest), but because I had real struggle weighing in, I didn’t do a 2k. Still regret that decision :(. Now I am taking a break but I will definitely use this scheme next year (as a heavy weight :) ).
Many thanks!
Tom
Posted by: Tom | May 17, 2016 at 08:40 AM
I have been rowing the last 3 years, and done weighttraining and running the last 10 years. I will take place in a quad-scull coastal race in Monaco this October. The preliminary race will be 4k long on open sea. Can i use part of your program, and if so which one? Most of my training will be on the erg,only weekends on the boat. Best 500m 1:29, 3000m 1:50 splits.35 years old, 6' tall, 175pounds.
Many thanks, Keep up the good work!
Evangelos Tsiroukis
Posted by: EvangelosTsiroukis | July 25, 2016 at 06:45 AM
Hi there!
First, congratulations on staying motivated - it is honestly the hardest part of all.
Second, do you know where I can find a similar week by week schedule for women? I am a female rower (1 year experience), 143 lbs, personal best 2K: 8:00:00, not lightweight as you can see. I want to decrease my PR by at least 1 minute. In order to do this, I need a very strict and clear schedule. I am willing to stick by it, whatever it takes.
Do you think you could help me?
Thank you,
Ananda S.
Posted by: Ananda Semenescu | June 07, 2017 at 05:14 PM
@Ananda,
I actually don't have good advice here, unfortunately. I've never coached women's rowing, at least not beyond the middle school level. In terms of strength goals though, I would point you towards the Rowing News table: https://books.google.com/books?id=hEsEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&dq=rowing+news+strength+tables&source=bl&ots=glmgfFENKI&sig=ddBWyvdGYBqSSKMY_NpP9GnOEJU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJruGQo63UAhUBXT4KHeaVCRsQ6AEIOTAE#v=onepage&q=rowing%20news%20strength%20tables&f=false
Posted by: Alex | June 07, 2017 at 11:12 PM
How much rest for the 3x10' test?
Posted by: John Mark | June 15, 2017 at 03:50 PM
Alex,
I started getting into this program about three weeks back, actually a minor step down from my 2x60min (HR145-160) in volume. I initially saw a decrease in splits from 2:07 to 2:04, likely due to lower volume and a minimal shift from 20SR to 19SR. More to the point, last saturday I did the weekly cross train of 2x45min on a treadmill. I struggled to get my heart rate up the 10 extra beats, and my legs felt sore past the rest on Sunday and into the rest of the week, to where I've failed to pull similar splits to last week. Is this to be expected/should splits recover with Saturday off this coming weekend? Or could this be impact related/a elliptical or bike would be fine in the future?
Thanks,
John M
Posted by: John | June 28, 2017 at 11:10 PM
Hi Alex im a Lightweight rower . 63kg and my 2k is 7;00 . How likely (if possible) is a 6:20 2k and how long will it take if I follow your training. Thanks and im really looking forward to make some real progress.
Andy
Posted by: Andy | March 14, 2018 at 05:37 PM
Hi Alex. My name is Raul I. Rojas and I’m a highschool freshman male rower at age 14,almost 15, 130lbs/ 59kg, with an average split of 1:53 for a 7:33 2k. I’ve been doing rowing for a little bit over a year now and I’m looking for something that and my team can use to get an edge on the competition. However, all of us are under the age of 16. How should I adjust your workout to suit my age?
Posted by: Raul I. Rojas | February 27, 2019 at 07:16 AM
Hi Alex,
My name is Rhea and I am a highschool freshman (15 years old) - I was wondering how I could adapt this program to suit it for a female perspective.
Thanks,
Rhea
Posted by: Rhea | April 07, 2021 at 06:45 AM
Hi Alex,
I'm a junior in high school 6'3" and 157 pounds. My current PR is 6:48 and I have been improving constantly/haven't plateaued at all. Would it be realistic for me to break 6:30 before the end of the winter training season (6 months from now)?
Thanks,
Cassin
Posted by: Cassin | September 29, 2022 at 01:50 PM